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Bay · Alabama

Bay John

30.66°N · 87.95°W · Bay · North Mobile Bay

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Best score today · 12 AM · Permit

80/100Great
Now
359 AM CST
Best window
9 AM-3 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Ebbing1.2 ft ▼

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24-hour conditions

Tuesday, Nov 10 · 4 PM

Time4P
Score35Fair
Tide0.7 ft ▲Flooding
CurrentFlood0.7 kn · toward NNE
Wind3 kn Sgusts 13 · steady
Air temp73°Warm
WeatherOvercast99% cloud
Water71°FModel

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Permit is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with ADCNR Marine Resources before you keep a fish.

Source: ADCNR Marine Resources · synced yesterday

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Spot profile

Bay John

Depth
Up to 1 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Off seasonPermit

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 14 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Bay John

Bay John is a bay in North Mobile Bay, Alabama. Depth is up to 1 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 19 species here; the best right now are spotted seatrout, red drum and southern flounder. It is peak season now for spotted seatrout, red drum, southern flounder and gag grouper, and shoulder season for black drum, king mackerel, gray triggerfish and red grouper. Spotted seatrout peak from March through May and from October through November. Red drum peak from September through November. Southern flounder peak from October through November.

Tackle & technique

Permit
Permit cruise flat edges and channels in 2 to 6 feet of water in the Keys and Biscayne Bay, and school over wrecks and reefs in 30 to 120 feet, especially during the spring spawn. A live or artificial crab is the standard bait, cast ahead of a tailing fish on the flats or dropped to a school on a wreck. They spook easily in shallow water, so good light and a long, quiet cast are needed.
Spotted seatrout
Trout hold over grass beds and sandy potholes in 2 to 8 feet of water most of the year and slide into channels, deep creek bends and canals during cold snaps. A live shrimp under a slip or popping cork, a paddle tail on a light jighead, or a topwater walked at first light covers most situations. Keep the drag light because their mouths tear easily.
Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Ducker Bay

    Bay · 0.9 mi

    76
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 76
    • Red drum 75
    • Southern flounder 69

    11 kt EL 3:25 PM · 0.7 ftH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ft

  • Pass Picada

    Channel · 1.1 mi

    76
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 76
    • Red drum 75
    • Southern flounder 68

    11 kt EL 3:25 PM · 0.7 ftH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ft

  • Sardine Pass

    Gut · 1.1 mi

    76
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 76
    • Red drum 75
    • Spanish mackerel 74

    11 kt EL 3:25 PM · 0.7 ftH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ft

  • Vessel Point

    Cape · 1.8 mi

    68
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 68
    • Gag grouper 67
    • Red drum 67

    11 kt EL 3:25 PM · 0.7 ftH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with ADCNR Marine Resources before you keep a fish.