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Bay · Alabama

Bay John

30.66°N · 87.95°W · Bay · North Mobile Bay

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Best score today · 5 PM · Permit

79/100Great
Now
528 AM CDT
Best window
4-7 PMEbb tide
Tide now
High1.9 ft

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 8 AM · now

Time8ANOW
Score52Good
Tide1.9 ftHigh
CurrentSlack0.1 kn
Wind2 kn WSWgusts 8 · steady
Air temp77°Warm
WeatherClear7% cloud
Water87°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Permit is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with ADCNR Marine Resources before you keep a fish.

Source: ADCNR Marine Resources · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Permit is best here

Shoulder season for Permit · 1 more week at shoulder

Permit season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Permit · 1 more week at shoulder.
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Permit in Alabama

Spot profile

Bay John

Depth
Up to 1 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonPermit

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 14 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Bay John

Bay John is a bay in North Mobile Bay, Alabama. Depth is up to 1 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 19 species here; the best right now are Atlantic croaker, red drum and Atlantic tarpon. It is peak season now for Atlantic croaker, red drum and gray snapper, and shoulder season for Atlantic tarpon, Florida pompano, permit and southern flounder. Atlantic croaker peak from July through September. Red drum peak from September through November. Atlantic tarpon peak from May through July.

Tackle & technique

Permit
Permit cruise flat edges and channels in 2 to 6 feet of water in the Keys and Biscayne Bay, and school over wrecks and reefs in 30 to 120 feet, especially during the spring spawn. A live or artificial crab is the standard bait, cast ahead of a tailing fish on the flats or dropped to a school on a wreck. They spook easily in shallow water, so good light and a long, quiet cast are needed.
Atlantic croaker
Croaker feed on mud and sand bottom along channel edges, oyster bars, piers and deeper holes in bays and sounds, mostly in 5 to 30 feet of water. A two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and shrimp, bloodworm or squid catches them from piers, the surf and small boats. Fish the hours around high tide and into the evening.
Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Pass Picada

    Channel · 1.1 mi

    73
    Top: Atlantic croakerPeak season
    • Atlantic croaker 73
    • Red drum 59
    • Gray snapper 57

    2 kt WSWL 8:47 PM · 0.5 ftH 8:56 AM · 1.8 ft

  • Sardine Pass

    Gut · 1.1 mi

    73
    Top: Atlantic croakerPeak season
    • Atlantic croaker 73
    • Red drum 59
    • Atlantic tarpon 58

    2 kt WSWL 8:47 PM · 0.5 ftH 8:56 AM · 1.8 ft

  • Ducker Bay

    Bay · 0.9 mi

    69
    Top: Atlantic croakerPeak season
    • Atlantic croaker 69
    • Red drum 59
    • Atlantic tarpon 54

    2 kt WSWL 8:47 PM · 0.5 ftH 8:56 AM · 1.8 ft

  • Vessel Point

    Cape · 1.8 mi

    65
    Top: Atlantic croakerPeak season
    • Atlantic croaker 65
    • Florida pompano 52
    • Gray snapper 51

    2 kt WSWL 8:47 PM · 0.5 ftH 8:56 AM · 1.8 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with ADCNR Marine Resources before you keep a fish.