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Bay · Alabama

Bay John

30.66°N · 87.95°W · Bay · North Mobile Bay

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Best score today · 12 AM · Permit

72/100Great
Now
353 AM CST
Best window
7-10 AMDawn
Tide now
High1.1 ft

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24-hour conditions

Friday, Nov 13 · 3 AM

Time3A
Score35Fair
Tide1.8 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb1.0 kn · toward SW
Wind3 kn NNEgusts 6 · steady
Air temp52°Cool
WeatherOvercast93% cloud
Water71°FPersisted

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Permit is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with ADCNR Marine Resources before you keep a fish.

Source: ADCNR Marine Resources · synced yesterday

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When Permit is best here

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Spot profile

Bay John

Depth
Up to 1 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Off seasonPermit

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 14 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Bay John

Bay John is a bay in North Mobile Bay, Alabama. Depth is up to 1 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 19 species here; the best right now are spotted seatrout, red drum and Florida pompano. It is peak season now for spotted seatrout, red drum, Florida pompano and southern flounder, and shoulder season for black drum, red snapper, gray snapper and sheepshead. Spotted seatrout peak from March through May and from October through November. Red drum peak from September through November. Florida pompano peak from March through May and from October through November.

Tackle & technique

Permit
Permit cruise flat edges and channels in 2 to 6 feet of water in the Keys and Biscayne Bay, and school over wrecks and reefs in 30 to 120 feet, especially during the spring spawn. A live or artificial crab is the standard bait, cast ahead of a tailing fish on the flats or dropped to a school on a wreck. They spook easily in shallow water, so good light and a long, quiet cast are needed.
Spotted seatrout
Trout hold over grass beds and sandy potholes in 2 to 8 feet of water most of the year and slide into channels, deep creek bends and canals during cold snaps. A live shrimp under a slip or popping cork, a paddle tail on a light jighead, or a topwater walked at first light covers most situations. Keep the drag light because their mouths tear easily.
Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Sardine Pass

    Gut · 1.1 mi

    65
    Top: Florida pompanoPeak season
    • Florida pompano 65
    • Spotted seatrout 62
    • Red drum 61

    3 kt SEH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ftL 2:11 PM · 0.9 ft

  • Ducker Bay

    Bay · 0.9 mi

    63
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 63
    • Red drum 61
    • Southern flounder 60

    3 kt SEH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ftL 2:11 PM · 0.9 ft

  • Pass Picada

    Channel · 1.1 mi

    62
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 62
    • Red drum 61
    • Southern flounder 60

    3 kt SEH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ftL 2:11 PM · 0.9 ft

  • Vessel Point

    Cape · 1.8 mi

    60
    Top: Florida pompanoPeak season
    • Florida pompano 60
    • Spotted seatrout 55
    • Red drum 53

    3 kt SEH 5:03 AM · 1.2 ftL 2:11 PM · 0.9 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with ADCNR Marine Resources before you keep a fish.