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Bay · Florida

Upper Thirty-six Bay

26.59°N · 82.12°W · Bay · Charlotte Harbor and Pine Island Sound

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Best score today · 9 AM · Permit

80/100Great
Now
607 PM EDT
Best window
9 PM-12 AMFlood tide
Tide now
Ebbing0.4 ft ▼

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 7 PM · now

Time7PNOW
Score60Good
Tide0.4 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentSlack0.0 kn
Wind2 kn Egusts 8 · steady
Sea stateLight chop0.7 ft · 4 s
Air temp78°Warm
WeatherOvercast99% chance of rain
Water85°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

Gulf state waters (Escambia through Collier counties)

IN EFFECT NOW

Permit

Retention open
Daily limit
2 per day
Possession
Not published
Size
Slot 11 to 22 in, fork length. One fish over 22 inches allowed per person, counted in the bag limit.
Season
No closed season on file
Annual quota
Not published
Other
No more than 2 permit over 22 inches per vessel. Hook and line only in state waters. No multiple hooks with natural bait. No snatching. Outside the Special Permit Zone. Open year-round.

From FWC Recreational Regulations: Permit, Florida pompano and African pompano, read Sep 13

Other species here

  • Atlantic croaker Retention open
  • Black drum Retention open (5 per day)
  • Bluefish Retention open (10 per day)
  • Bonefish Catch & release (No retention)
  • Cobia Retention open (1 per day)
  • Crevalle jack Retention open
  • Florida pompano Retention open (6 per day)
  • Gag grouper Retention open (2 per day (4 Gulf grouper combined))
  • Gray snapper Retention open (5 per day (10 snapper combined))
  • Gray triggerfish Retention open (1 per day)
  • Greater amberjack Retention open (1 per day)
  • King mackerel Retention open (3 per day)
  • Mahi-mahi Retention open (10 per day)
  • Red drum Retention open (1 per day)
  • Red grouper Retention open (2 per day (4 Gulf grouper combined))
  • Red snapper Retention open (2 per day (10 snapper combined))
  • Sailfish Retention open (1 per day (1 billfish combined))
  • Sheepshead Retention open (8 per day)
  • Snook Catch & release (No retention)
  • Southern flounder Retention open (5 per day)
  • Spanish mackerel Retention open (15 per day)
  • Spot Retention open
  • Spotted seatrout Retention open (3 per day)
  • Summer flounder Retention open (5 per day)
  • Tarpon Catch & release (No retention)
  • Wahoo Retention open (2 per day)

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Permit is best here

Shoulder season for Permit · 1 more week at shoulder

Permit season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Permit · 1 more week at shoulder.
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Spot profile

Upper Thirty-six Bay

Depth
About 2 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonPermit

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Upper Thirty-six Bay

Upper Thirty-six Bay is a bay in Charlotte Harbor and Pine Island Sound, Florida. Depth is about 2 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 20 species here; the best right now are red drum, common snook and Atlantic croaker. It is peak season now for red drum, common snook, Atlantic croaker and gray snapper, and shoulder season for permit, Atlantic tarpon, southern flounder and black drum. Red drum peak from September through November. Common snook peak from April through May and from September through October. Atlantic croaker peak from July through September.

Tackle & technique

Permit
Permit cruise flat edges and channels in 2 to 6 feet of water in the Keys and Biscayne Bay, and school over wrecks and reefs in 30 to 120 feet, especially during the spring spawn. A live or artificial crab is the standard bait, cast ahead of a tailing fish on the flats or dropped to a school on a wreck. They spook easily in shallow water, so good light and a long, quiet cast are needed.
Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.
Common snook
Snook ambush bait around mangrove shorelines, bridge and dock lights, jetties and the mouths of passes and inlets, generally in 2 to 15 feet of water. Fish moving water, especially the outgoing tide, with a live pilchard, pinfish or shrimp, or a jerkbait or soft plastic swum past the structure. In summer they spawn along beaches and inlets, and in winter they crowd into rivers, canals and deep backcountry creeks where the water stays warmer.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Pine Island Creek

    Gut · 2.0 mi

    69
    Top: Common snookPeak season
    • Common snook 69
    • Red drum 63
    • Atlantic croaker 62

    2 kt EL 7:32 PM · 0.5 ftH 1:36 AM · 1.7 ft

  • 66
    Top: Red drumPeak season
    • Red drum 66
    • Common snook 65
    • Atlantic croaker 60

    2 kt EL 7:26 PM · 0.4 ftH 1:44 AM · 1.7 ft

  • Forty Acre Bay

    Bay · 1.1 mi

    66
    Top: Red drumPeak season
    • Red drum 66
    • Common snook 65
    • Atlantic croaker 60

    2 kt EL 7:26 PM · 0.4 ftH 1:44 AM · 1.7 ft

  • Rocky Creek

    Bay · 2.3 mi

    66
    Top: Red drumPeak season
    • Red drum 66
    • Common snook 65
    • Atlantic croaker 60

    2 kt EL 7:26 PM · 0.4 ftH 1:44 AM · 1.7 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with FWC before you keep a fish.