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ScupShoulder season

Bay · New York

Lower Bay

40.53°N · 74.04°W · Bay · New York Harbor

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Best score today · 4 PM · Striped bass

82/100Great
Now
682 PM EST
Best window
3-8 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Ebbing5.1 ft ▼

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24-hour conditions

Saturday, Nov 14 · 7 AM

Time7A
Score80Great
Tide2.7 ft ▲Flooding
CurrentFlood0.7 kn · toward W
Wind4 kn Wgusts 13 · steady
Air temp45°Cold
WeatherClear16% cloud
Water59°FPersisted

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Shoulder season for Scup · 2 more weeks at shoulder

Scup season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Scup · 2 more weeks at shoulder.
  • Peak
  • Shoulder
  • Off
  • Not here
  • This week

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Spot profile

Lower Bay

Depth
25-35 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Lower Bay

Lower Bay is a bay in New York Harbor. Depth is 25-35 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 14 species here; the best right now are scup, striped bass and spotted seatrout. It is peak season now for striped bass, spotted seatrout, tautog and bluefish, and shoulder season for scup, spot, weakfish and red drum. Scup peak from June through October. Striped bass peak from April through May and from October through December. Spotted seatrout peak from October through November.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Striped bass
Striped bass feed where moving tide pushes bait past structure: inlets, points, jetties, bridge pilings and rips in the surf, usually in 2 to 40 feet of water. Fish dawn, dusk and night hardest, casting plugs, bucktails and soft plastics or drifting live bunker and eels, and chunk bait on the bottom in current. In midsummer the larger fish drop deeper or feed mostly after dark.
Spotted seatrout
Trout hold over grass beds and sandy potholes in 2 to 8 feet of water most of the year and slide into channels, deep creek bends and canals during cold snaps. A live shrimp under a slip or popping cork, a paddle tail on a light jighead, or a topwater walked at first light covers most situations. Keep the drag light because their mouths tear easily.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Chapel Hill North Channel

    Channel · 0.7 mi

    71
    Top: ScupShoulder season
    • Scup 71
    • Striped bass 71
    • Spotted seatrout 70

    6 kt SWL 8:15 PM · 0.4 ftH 2:24 AM · 4.8 ft

  • 69
    Top: ScupShoulder season
    • Scup 69
    • Striped bass 68
    • Spotted seatrout 65

    6 kt SWL 8:15 PM · 0.4 ftH 2:24 AM · 4.8 ft

  • Chapel Hill South Channel

    Channel · 1.4 mi

    68
    Top: ScupShoulder season
    • Scup 68
    • Spotted seatrout 64
    • Striped bass 64

    6 kt SWL 8:32 PM · 0.4 ftH 2:28 AM · 4.8 ft

  • Craven Shoal

    Bar · 2.2 mi

    66
    Top: ScupShoulder season
    • Scup 66
    • Striped bass 62
    • Spotted seatrout 61

    6 kt SWL 8:21 PM · 0.2 ftH 2:33 AM · 4.9 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.