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Black drumOff season

Bay · New York

Upper Bay

40.66°N · 74.05°W · Bay · New York Harbor

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Best score today · 5 PM · Black drum

78/100Great
Now
354 AM EDT
Best window
3-10 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Flooding3.9 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 4 AM · now

Time4ANOW
Score35Fair
Tide3.9 ft ▲Flooding
CurrentFlood0.2 kn · toward NNE
Wind8 kn Ngusts 19 · steady
Sea stateLight chop1.0 ft · 4 s
Air temp61°Mild
WeatherOvercast55% chance of rain
Water73°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Black drum is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Black drum is best here

Out of season for Black drum · it leaves in 6 weeks

Black drum season by week of the year. Out of season for Black drum · it leaves in 6 weeks.
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Black drum in New York

Spot profile

Upper Bay

Depth
45-60 ftSlope
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · slope
Season
Off seasonBlack drum

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Upper Bay

Upper Bay is a bay in New York Harbor. Depth is 45-60 ft, with a slope. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are scup, spot and Atlantic croaker. It is peak season now for scup, spot, sheepshead and red drum, and shoulder season for Atlantic croaker, weakfish, bluefish and cobia. Scup peak from June through October. Spot peak from August through October. Atlantic croaker peak from June through August.

Tackle & technique

Black drum
Black drum root along the bottom around oyster reefs, bridge and pier pilings, channel edges and shallow mud flats. TPWD notes they rarely take artificials, so fish peeled shrimp, crab, clams or sand fleas on a bottom rig and let the fish load the rod before setting the hook. Big spawning schools gather near passes and bay mouths in late winter and spring, and in the Chesapeake and Delaware Bay the large fish show up on the shoals from April into June.
Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Spot
Spot school over mud and sand in bays, tidal creeks and channels and around piers and bridges, generally in less than 25 feet of water. Fish a two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and bits of bloodworm or shrimp, and move until you find a school. In fall the biggest fish run out of the sounds past piers and inlets, and the bite can go all day.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Bay Ridge Channel

    Channel · 1.2 mi

    78
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 78
    • Scup 73
    • Atlantic croaker 69

    8 kt NH 4:38 AM · 4.0 ftL 10:52 AM · 1.5 ft

  • Red Hook Channel

    Channel · 1.5 mi

    78
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 78
    • Scup 73
    • Atlantic croaker 69

    8 kt NH 4:38 AM · 4.0 ftL 10:52 AM · 1.5 ft

  • Anchorage Channel

    Channel · 0.9 mi

    73
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 73
    • Spot 72
    • Atlantic croaker 68

    8 kt NH 4:39 AM · 3.9 ftL 10:49 AM · 1.5 ft

  • Gowanus Flats

    Bar · 1.2 mi

    72
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 72
    • Scup 68
    • Red drum 67

    8 kt NH 4:38 AM · 4.0 ftL 10:52 AM · 1.5 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.