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Red drumShoulder season

Bar · New York

Crow Shoal

41.08°N · 72.17°W · Bar · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 6 AM · Red drum

77/100Great
Now
542 PM EST
Best window
5-10 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Flooding2.1 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions

Saturday, Nov 14 · 4 PM

Time4P
Score35Fair
Tide1.8 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.4 kn · toward ENE
Wind3 kn Egusts 9 · steady
Air temp53°Cool
WeatherClear10% cloud
Water58°FPersisted

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

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No rule for Red drum is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Red drum is best here

Last week of shoulder season for Red drum · the off season next

Red drum season by week of the year. Last week of shoulder season for Red drum · the off season next.
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Spot profile

Crow Shoal

Depth
10-35 ftSlope
Structure
Shoal · Inner · Semi-exposedShoal · slope
Season
Shoulder seasonRed drum

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Crow Shoal

Crow Shoal is a bar in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 10-35 ft, with a slope. Its profile reads shoal, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 14 species here; the best right now are striped bass, black sea bass and tautog. It is peak season now for striped bass, black sea bass, tautog and bluefish, and shoulder season for scup, weakfish, little tunny and red drum. Striped bass peak from April through May and from October through December. Black sea bass peak from May through June and from October through November. Tautog peak in April and from October through December.

Tackle & technique

Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.
Striped bass
Striped bass feed where moving tide pushes bait past structure: inlets, points, jetties, bridge pilings and rips in the surf, usually in 2 to 40 feet of water. Fish dawn, dusk and night hardest, casting plugs, bucktails and soft plastics or drifting live bunker and eels, and chunk bait on the bottom in current. In midsummer the larger fish drop deeper or feed mostly after dark.
Black sea bass
Black sea bass hold tight to wrecks, reefs, rock piles and jetties, from 15 feet inshore in late spring to well over 100 feet on offshore wrecks in late fall. Anchor or drift right over the structure and fish a two-hook high-low rig with squid or clam, or bounce a small jig on the bottom. The biggest males sit on the highest relief.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Cherry Hill Point

    Cape · 1.8 mi

    78
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 78
    • Black sea bass 69
    • Tautog 69

    11 kt SWH 4:10 PM · 2.7 ftL 10:28 PM · 0.2 ft

  • Gardiners Bay

    Bay · 0.8 mi

    76
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 76
    • Tautog 74
    • Spotted seatrout 70

    11 kt SWH 4:10 PM · 2.7 ftL 10:28 PM · 0.2 ft

  • Bostwick Bay

    Bay · 3.0 mi

    76
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 76
    • Tautog 74
    • Spotted seatrout 70

    11 kt SWH 4:08 PM · 2.9 ftL 10:37 PM · 0.3 ft

  • Cherry Harbor

    Bay · 2.7 mi

    74
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 74
    • Black sea bass 73
    • Tautog 73

    14 kt SWH 4:10 PM · 2.7 ftL 10:28 PM · 0.2 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.