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Red drumShoulder season

Bay · New York

Orient Harbor

41.13°N · 72.31°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 3 PM · Red drum

87/100Epic
Now
574 PM EST
Best window
6-11 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Flooding2.7 ft ▲

Data from: NOAA CO-OPS + NDBC + ECMWF + Open-Meteo Marine · Waterlands engine

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24-hour conditions

Wednesday, Nov 4 · 4 PM

Time4P
Score63Good
Tide1.8 ft ▲Flooding
CurrentFlood0.9 kn · toward NW
Wind6 kn SSWgusts 17 · steady
Sea stateLight chop0.5 ft · 3 s
Air temp65°Mild
WeatherClear0% cloud
Water60°FBias corrected

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Red drum is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Red drum is best here

Last week of shoulder season for Red drum · the off season next

Red drum season by week of the year. Last week of shoulder season for Red drum · the off season next.
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Spot profile

Orient Harbor

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonRed drum

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Orient Harbor

Orient Harbor is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 14 species here; the best right now are striped bass, scup and spotted seatrout. It is peak season now for striped bass, spotted seatrout, tautog and black sea bass, and shoulder season for scup, weakfish, spot and little tunny. Striped bass peak from April through May and from October through December. Scup peak from June through October. Spotted seatrout peak from October through November.

Tackle & technique

Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.
Striped bass
Striped bass feed where moving tide pushes bait past structure: inlets, points, jetties, bridge pilings and rips in the surf, usually in 2 to 40 feet of water. Fish dawn, dusk and night hardest, casting plugs, bucktails and soft plastics or drifting live bunker and eels, and chunk bait on the bottom in current. In midsummer the larger fish drop deeper or feed mostly after dark.
Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Hay Beach Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    80
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 80
    • Scup 74
    • Black sea bass 72

    11 kt SWH 4:52 PM · 2.6 ftL 10:54 PM · 0.3 ft

  • Browns Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    78
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 78
    • Spotted seatrout 69
    • Scup 68

    7 kt SWL 10:47 PM · 0.3 ftH 5:19 AM · 2.7 ft

  • Spring Pond

    Bay · 1.6 mi

    77
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 77
    • Spotted seatrout 73
    • Scup 71

    11 kt SWH 4:52 PM · 2.6 ftL 10:54 PM · 0.3 ft

  • Eagle Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    74
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 74
    • Scup 68
    • Spotted seatrout 64

    7 kt SWL 10:47 PM · 0.3 ftH 5:19 AM · 2.7 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.