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ScupShoulder season

Bay · New York

West Neck Bay

41.06°N · 72.36°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 3 PM · Scup

84/100Great
Now
681 PM EST
Best window
2-4 PMFlood tide
Tide now
Flooding1.2 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions

Sunday, Nov 8 · 7 AM

Time7A
Score68Great
Tide2.2 ft ▲Flooding
CurrentFlood1.4 kn · toward SE
Wind10 kn WNWgusts 16 · steady
Sea stateLight chop1.6 ft · 4 s
Air temp54°Cool
WeatherClear9% cloud
Water59°FModel

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Shoulder season for Scup · 2 more weeks at shoulder

Scup season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Scup · 2 more weeks at shoulder.
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Spot profile

West Neck Bay

Depth
3-15 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · ProtectedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing West Neck Bay

West Neck Bay is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 3-15 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and protected.

Waterlands scores 14 species here; the best right now are tautog, striped bass and black sea bass. It is peak season now for tautog, striped bass, black sea bass and spotted seatrout, and shoulder season for scup, weakfish, winter flounder and spot. Tautog peak in April and from October through December. Striped bass peak from April through May and from October through December. Black sea bass peak from May through June and from October through November.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Tautog
Tautog live in rocks, wrecks, bridge pilings and jetties and rarely stray from cover, usually in 10 to 60 feet inshore and deeper in late fall. Anchor so the bait sits in the structure, fish crab on a short rig or a tog jig, and set hard on the second tap before the fish pulls into the rocks. Clams and worms work better in cold spring water; hard crabs are the standard in fall.
Striped bass
Striped bass feed where moving tide pushes bait past structure: inlets, points, jetties, bridge pilings and rips in the surf, usually in 2 to 40 feet of water. Fish dawn, dusk and night hardest, casting plugs, bucktails and soft plastics or drifting live bunker and eels, and chunk bait on the bottom in current. In midsummer the larger fish drop deeper or feed mostly after dark.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • West Neck Harbor

    Bay · 1.4 mi

    77
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 77
    • Tautog 76
    • Black sea bass 75

    11 kt SWH 5:37 PM · 2.5 ftL 11:53 PM · 0.2 ft

  • Crab Creek

    Bay · 0.8 mi

    76
    Top: Black sea bassPeak season
    • Black sea bass 76
    • Tautog 74
    • Scup 71

    11 kt SWH 5:15 PM · 2.5 ftL 11:42 PM · 0.2 ft

  • Crab Creek Point

    Cape · 1.0 mi

    76
    Top: Black sea bassPeak season
    • Black sea bass 76
    • Tautog 74
    • Striped bass 73

    11 kt SWH 5:15 PM · 2.5 ftL 11:42 PM · 0.2 ft

  • Conkling Point

    Cape · 1.2 mi

    75
    Top: Black sea bassPeak season
    • Black sea bass 75
    • Tautog 74
    • Striped bass 73

    11 kt SWH 5:20 PM · 4.4 ftL 11:36 PM · 0.3 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.