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ScupPeak season

Bay · New York

Gardiners Bay

41.08°N · 72.15°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 6 PM · Red drum

82/100Great
Now
7511 AM EDT
Best window
5-8 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Flooding1.4 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions

Sunday, Sep 27 · 2 PM

Time2P
Score76Great
Tide1.8 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.5 kn · toward ENE
Wind10 kn WNWgusts 19 · steady
Air temp60°Mild
WeatherClear0% cloud
Water66°FPersisted

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Peak season for Scup · 6 more weeks at peak

Scup season by week of the year. Peak season for Scup · 6 more weeks at peak.
  • Peak
  • Shoulder
  • Off
  • Not here
  • This week

Scup in New York

Spot profile

Gardiners Bay

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Peak seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Gardiners Bay

Gardiners Bay is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are scup, spot and red drum. It is peak season now for scup, spot, red drum and sheepshead, and shoulder season for spotted seatrout, Atlantic croaker, weakfish and striped bass. Scup peak from June through October. Spot peak from August through October. Red drum peak in May and from September through October.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Spot
Spot school over mud and sand in bays, tidal creeks and channels and around piers and bridges, generally in less than 25 feet of water. Fish a two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and bits of bloodworm or shrimp, and move until you find a school. In fall the biggest fish run out of the sounds past piers and inlets, and the bite can go all day.
Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Cherry Harbor

    Bay · 2.0 mi

    79
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 79
    • Sheepshead 77
    • Scup 76

    9 kt SSWH 3:26 PM · 2.8 ftL 9:59 PM · 0.7 ft

  • Cherry Hill Point

    Cape · 1.0 mi

    75
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 75
    • Spot 70
    • Red drum 69

    9 kt SWH 3:26 PM · 2.8 ftL 9:59 PM · 0.7 ft

  • Bostwick Bay

    Bay · 2.3 mi

    75
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 75
    • Spot 75
    • Red drum 74

    9 kt SWH 3:19 PM · 2.9 ftL 10:10 PM · 0.8 ft

  • Crow Shoal

    Bar · 0.8 mi

    72
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 72
    • Spot 70
    • Summer flounder 70

    9 kt SWH 3:26 PM · 2.8 ftL 9:59 PM · 0.7 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.