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ScupShoulder season

Bay · New York

Gardiners Bay

41.08°N · 72.15°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 5 PM · Scup

82/100Great
Now
5810 PM EST
Best window
11 PM-12 AMFlood tide
Tide now
Flooding0.3 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions

Tuesday, Nov 10 · 12 AM

Time12A
Score62Good
Tide1.8 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.3 kn · toward ENE
Wind10 kn Egusts 15 · steady
Sea stateLight chop1.8 ft · 5 s
Air temp53°Cool
WeatherOvercast34% chance of rain
Water59°FModel

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Shoulder season for Scup · 3 more weeks at shoulder

Scup season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Scup · 3 more weeks at shoulder.
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Spot profile

Gardiners Bay

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Gardiners Bay

Gardiners Bay is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 14 species here; the best right now are spotted seatrout, striped bass and weakfish. It is peak season now for spotted seatrout, striped bass, tautog and bluefish, and shoulder season for weakfish, scup, red drum and spot. Spotted seatrout peak from October through November. Striped bass peak from April through May and from October through December. Weakfish peak from May through June and in October.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Spotted seatrout
Trout hold over grass beds and sandy potholes in 2 to 8 feet of water most of the year and slide into channels, deep creek bends and canals during cold snaps. A live shrimp under a slip or popping cork, a paddle tail on a light jighead, or a topwater walked at first light covers most situations. Keep the drag light because their mouths tear easily.
Striped bass
Striped bass feed where moving tide pushes bait past structure: inlets, points, jetties, bridge pilings and rips in the surf, usually in 2 to 40 feet of water. Fish dawn, dusk and night hardest, casting plugs, bucktails and soft plastics or drifting live bunker and eels, and chunk bait on the bottom in current. In midsummer the larger fish drop deeper or feed mostly after dark.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Cherry Hill Point

    Cape · 1.0 mi

    70
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 70
    • Spotted seatrout 63
    • Bluefish 56

    7 kt WSWH 3:38 AM · 2.4 ftL 9:46 AM · 0.5 ft

  • Cherry Harbor

    Bay · 2.0 mi

    69
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 69
    • Spotted seatrout 68
    • Tautog 62

    8 kt WSWH 3:38 AM · 2.4 ftL 9:46 AM · 0.5 ft

  • Bostwick Bay

    Bay · 2.3 mi

    66
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 66
    • Striped bass 66
    • Weakfish 60

    7 kt WSWH 3:39 AM · 2.6 ftL 9:53 AM · 0.5 ft

  • Crow Shoal

    Bar · 0.8 mi

    63
    Top: Spotted seatroutPeak season
    • Spotted seatrout 63
    • Striped bass 63
    • Bluefish 58

    7 kt WSWH 3:38 AM · 2.4 ftL 9:46 AM · 0.5 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.