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ScupPeak season

Bay · New York

Gardiners Bay

41.08°N · 72.15°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 4 AM · Scup

74/100Great
Now
581 AM EDT
Best window
2-5 AMFlood tide
Tide now
Low0.8 ft

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 1 AM · now

Time1ANOW
Score58Good
Tide0.8 ftLow
CurrentSlack0.0 kn
Wind8 kn SSWgusts 12 · steady
Sea stateLight chop1.7 ft · 4 s
Air temp70°Warm
WeatherOvercast85% chance of rain
Water70°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Peak season for Scup · 5 more weeks at peak

Scup season by week of the year. Peak season for Scup · 5 more weeks at peak.
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  • Shoulder
  • Off
  • Not here
  • This week

Scup in New York

Spot profile

Gardiners Bay

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Peak seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Gardiners Bay

Gardiners Bay is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are red drum, spot and scup. It is peak season now for red drum, spot, scup and sheepshead, and shoulder season for striped bass, spotted seatrout, weakfish and bluefish. Red drum peak in May and from September through October. Spot peak from August through October. Scup peak from June through October.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Red drum
Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.
Spot
Spot school over mud and sand in bays, tidal creeks and channels and around piers and bridges, generally in less than 25 feet of water. Fish a two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and bits of bloodworm or shrimp, and move until you find a school. In fall the biggest fish run out of the sounds past piers and inlets, and the bite can go all day.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Bostwick Bay

    Bay · 2.3 mi

    62
    Top: Red drumPeak season
    • Red drum 62
    • Spot 59
    • Scup 58

    8 kt SSWH 7:01 AM · 2.5 ftL 1:03 PM · 0.9 ft

  • Cherry Harbor

    Bay · 2.0 mi

    61
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 61
    • Scup 57
    • Sheepshead 56

    11 kt SSWH 7:01 AM · 2.3 ftL 12:46 PM · 0.9 ft

  • Cherry Hill Point

    Cape · 1.0 mi

    58
    Top: Striped bassShoulder season
    • Striped bass 58
    • Little tunny 57
    • Red drum 57

    8 kt SSWH 7:01 AM · 2.3 ftL 12:46 PM · 0.9 ft

  • Crow Shoal

    Bar · 0.8 mi

    57
    Top: Red drumPeak season
    • Red drum 57
    • Little tunny 54
    • Spot 54

    8 kt SSWH 7:01 AM · 2.3 ftL 12:46 PM · 0.9 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.