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ScupShoulder season

Bay · New York

Orient Harbor

41.13°N · 72.31°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 3 PM · Scup

87/100Epic
Now
711 PM EST
Best window
2-4 PMFlood tide
Tide now
Flooding1.4 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions

Saturday, Nov 14 · 4 PM

Time4P
Score61Good
Tide1.8 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.3 kn · toward E
Wind2 kn SSEgusts 10 · steady
Air temp53°Cool
WeatherMostly cloudy52% cloud
Water58°FPersisted

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Shoulder season for Scup · 2 more weeks at shoulder

Scup season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Scup · 2 more weeks at shoulder.
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Spot profile

Orient Harbor

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Orient Harbor

Orient Harbor is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 14 species here; the best right now are black sea bass, tautog and striped bass. It is peak season now for black sea bass, tautog, striped bass and spotted seatrout, and shoulder season for scup, weakfish, spot and little tunny. Black sea bass peak from May through June and from October through November. Tautog peak in April and from October through December. Striped bass peak from April through May and from October through December.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Black sea bass
Black sea bass hold tight to wrecks, reefs, rock piles and jetties, from 15 feet inshore in late spring to well over 100 feet on offshore wrecks in late fall. Anchor or drift right over the structure and fish a two-hook high-low rig with squid or clam, or bounce a small jig on the bottom. The biggest males sit on the highest relief.
Tautog
Tautog live in rocks, wrecks, bridge pilings and jetties and rarely stray from cover, usually in 10 to 60 feet inshore and deeper in late fall. Anchor so the bait sits in the structure, fish crab on a short rig or a tog jig, and set hard on the second tap before the fish pulls into the rocks. Clams and worms work better in cold spring water; hard crabs are the standard in fall.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Eagle Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    80
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 80
    • Black sea bass 68
    • Bluefish 68

    9 kt SWH 4:33 PM · 2.7 ftL 10:47 PM · 0.3 ft

  • Hay Beach Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    76
    Top: Black sea bassPeak season
    • Black sea bass 76
    • Tautog 74
    • Striped bass 73

    11 kt SWH 4:52 PM · 2.6 ftL 10:54 PM · 0.3 ft

  • Browns Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    75
    Top: Striped bassPeak season
    • Striped bass 75
    • Black sea bass 69
    • Tautog 69

    9 kt SWH 4:33 PM · 2.7 ftL 10:47 PM · 0.3 ft

  • Spring Pond

    Bay · 1.6 mi

    73
    Top: TautogPeak season
    • Tautog 73
    • Striped bass 70
    • Black sea bass 68

    11 kt SWH 4:52 PM · 2.6 ftL 10:54 PM · 0.3 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.