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ScupPeak season

Bay · New York

Orient Harbor

41.13°N · 72.31°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 7 AM · Scup

79/100Great
Now
704 AM EDT
Best window
5 AM-1 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Flooding1.1 ft ▲

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 4 AM · now

Time4ANOW
Score70Great
Tide1.1 ft ▲Flooding
CurrentSlack0.0 kn
Wind7 kn NNEgusts 12 · steady
Sea stateModerate2.0 ft · 3 s
Air temp56°Mild
WeatherOvercast100% cloud
Water69°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Scup is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Scup is best here

Peak season for Scup · 5 more weeks at peak

Scup season by week of the year. Peak season for Scup · 5 more weeks at peak.
  • Peak
  • Shoulder
  • Off
  • Not here
  • This week

Scup in New York

Spot profile

Orient Harbor

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Peak seasonScup

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Orient Harbor

Orient Harbor is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are spot, scup and sheepshead. It is peak season now for spot, scup, sheepshead and little tunny, and shoulder season for striped bass, black sea bass, bluefish and weakfish. Spot peak from August through October. Scup peak from June through October. Sheepshead peak from July through September.

Tackle & technique

Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Spot
Spot school over mud and sand in bays, tidal creeks and channels and around piers and bridges, generally in less than 25 feet of water. Fish a two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and bits of bloodworm or shrimp, and move until you find a school. In fall the biggest fish run out of the sounds past piers and inlets, and the bite can go all day.
Sheepshead
Sheepshead graze barnacles and crabs off pilings, jetty rocks, bridge supports, oyster bars and nearshore reefs, from a few feet deep out to about 50 feet. Drop a fiddler crab, sand flea or piece of shrimp on a small, strong hook straight down next to the structure with just enough weight to hold bottom. The bite is a light tap, so keep the line tight and set the hook fast.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Eagle Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    73
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 73
    • Striped bass 69
    • Spot 67

    7 kt NNEH 7:55 AM · 2.4 ftL 1:55 PM · 0.6 ft

  • Browns Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    67
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 67
    • Spot 65
    • Scup 63

    7 kt NNEH 7:55 AM · 2.4 ftL 1:55 PM · 0.6 ft

  • Hay Beach Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    67
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 67
    • Little tunny 63
    • Spot 61

    11 kt NEH 8:32 AM · 2.4 ftL 2:07 PM · 0.7 ft

  • Spring Pond

    Bay · 1.6 mi

    66
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 66
    • Scup 65
    • Red drum 61

    11 kt NEH 8:32 AM · 2.4 ftL 2:07 PM · 0.7 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.