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Black drumOff season

Bay · New York

Orient Harbor

41.13°N · 72.31°W · Bay · Peconic and Gardiners Bays

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Best score today · 7 AM · Black drum

78/100Great
Now
351 AM EDT
Best window
4 AM-12 PMHigh slack
Tide now
Ebbing0.7 ft ▼

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 1 AM · now

Time1ANOW
Score35Fair
Tide0.7 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.9 kn · toward E
Wind6 kn NNEgusts 11 · steady
Sea stateModerate2.1 ft · 3 s
Air temp56°Mild
WeatherOvercast97% cloud
Water69°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Black drum is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

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When Black drum is best here

Out of season for Black drum · it leaves in 6 weeks

Black drum season by week of the year. Out of season for Black drum · it leaves in 6 weeks.
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Black drum in New York

Spot profile

Orient Harbor

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Bay · Inner · Semi-exposedBay · flat bottom
Season
Off seasonBlack drum

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Orient Harbor

Orient Harbor is a bay in Peconic and Gardiners Bays, New York. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads bay, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are spot, little tunny and sheepshead. It is peak season now for spot, little tunny, sheepshead and scup, and shoulder season for striped bass, bluefish, weakfish and black sea bass. Spot peak from August through October. Little tunny peak from September through October. Sheepshead peak from July through September.

Tackle & technique

Black drum
Black drum root along the bottom around oyster reefs, bridge and pier pilings, channel edges and shallow mud flats. TPWD notes they rarely take artificials, so fish peeled shrimp, crab, clams or sand fleas on a bottom rig and let the fish load the rod before setting the hook. Big spawning schools gather near passes and bay mouths in late winter and spring, and in the Chesapeake and Delaware Bay the large fish show up on the shoals from April into June.
Spot
Spot school over mud and sand in bays, tidal creeks and channels and around piers and bridges, generally in less than 25 feet of water. Fish a two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and bits of bloodworm or shrimp, and move until you find a school. In fall the biggest fish run out of the sounds past piers and inlets, and the bite can go all day.
Little tunny
Little tunny travel fast in schools that pin bait against inlets, points, jetties and tide rips, usually within a few miles of shore and often in less than 60 feet. Stay off the school's path, wait for it to surface within range, and cast small metal or epoxy jigs with a fast retrieve. When fish stay down, troll small feathers along bait edges and color changes to find them.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Browns Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    68
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 68
    • Striped bass 64
    • Bluefish 61

    6 kt NNEL 1:47 AM · 0.7 ftH 7:55 AM · 2.4 ft

  • Hay Beach Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    68
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 68
    • Striped bass 64
    • Bluefish 62

    11 kt NEL 1:58 AM · 0.7 ftH 8:32 AM · 2.4 ft

  • Eagle Point

    Cape · 1.9 mi

    66
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 66
    • Striped bass 61
    • Spot 60

    6 kt NNEL 1:47 AM · 0.7 ftH 7:55 AM · 2.4 ft

  • Spring Pond

    Bay · 1.6 mi

    65
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 65
    • Little tunny 64
    • Red drum 64

    11 kt NEL 1:58 AM · 0.7 ftH 8:32 AM · 2.4 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.