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Little tunnyPeak season

Bar · New York

Old Orchard Shoal

40.52°N · 74.12°W · Bar · New York Harbor

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Best score today · 7 PM · Little tunny

79/100Great
Now
716 AM EDT
Best window
6-9 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Ebbing3.7 ft ▼

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 6 AM · now

Time6ANOW
Score71Great
Tide3.7 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.5 kn · toward NNE
Wind8 kn Ngusts 18 · steady
Sea stateLight chop1.6 ft · 4 s
Air temp62°Mild
WeatherPartly cloudy42% chance of rain
Water72°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Little tunny is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Little tunny is best here

Peak season for Little tunny · 5 more weeks at peak

Little tunny season by week of the year. Peak season for Little tunny · 5 more weeks at peak.
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Little tunny in New York

Spot profile

Old Orchard Shoal

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Shoal · Inner · Semi-exposedShoal · flat bottom
Season
Peak seasonLittle tunny

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Old Orchard Shoal

Old Orchard Shoal is a bar in New York Harbor. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads shoal, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are little tunny, Spanish mackerel and scup. It is peak season now for little tunny, Spanish mackerel, scup and spot, and shoulder season for bluefish, Atlantic croaker, black sea bass and weakfish. Little tunny peak from September through October. Spanish mackerel peak from July through September. Scup peak from June through October.

Tackle & technique

Little tunny
Little tunny travel fast in schools that pin bait against inlets, points, jetties and tide rips, usually within a few miles of shore and often in less than 60 feet. Stay off the school's path, wait for it to surface within range, and cast small metal or epoxy jigs with a fast retrieve. When fish stay down, troll small feathers along bait edges and color changes to find them.
Spanish mackerel
Spanish mackerel school along beaches and around inlets, jetties, piers and bridge-tunnel structures, and along tide rips in 5 to 40 feet of water once the water climbs above about 68 degrees F. Troll small spoons or cast metal jigs and retrieve fast, or look for birds diving on bait and cast into the school. FWC calls for a 30 to 60 pound monofilament leader because their teeth cut light line.
Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Great Kills Harbor

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    78
    Top: SpotPeak season
    • Spot 78
    • Scup 77
    • Little tunny 73

    8 kt NL 10:36 AM · 1.4 ftH 4:36 PM · 4.9 ft

  • Crookes Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    75
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 75
    • Scup 70
    • Spot 69

    8 kt NL 10:36 AM · 1.4 ftH 4:36 PM · 4.9 ft

  • Raritan Bay

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    71
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 71
    • Spot 71
    • Little tunny 66

    8 kt NL 10:36 AM · 1.4 ftH 4:36 PM · 4.9 ft

  • Craven Shoal

    Bar · 2.0 mi

    71
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 71
    • Spanish mackerel 70
    • Scup 69

    8 kt NL 10:36 AM · 1.4 ftH 4:36 PM · 4.9 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.