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WeakfishShoulder season

Bar · New York

Old Orchard Shoal

40.52°N · 74.12°W · Bar · New York Harbor

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Best score today · 7 PM · Weakfish

78/100Great
Now
505 PM EDT
Best window
5-9 PMEbb tide
Tide now
High4.8 ft

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 5 PM · now

Time5PNOW
Score50Good
Tide4.8 ftHigh
CurrentEbb0.3 kn · toward NNE
Wind7 kn ENEgusts 17 · steady
Sea stateLight chop1.9 ft · 5 s
Air temp70°Warm
WeatherMostly cloudy56% cloud
Water72°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Weakfish is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Weakfish is best here

Shoulder season for Weakfish · 1 more week at shoulder

Weakfish season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Weakfish · 1 more week at shoulder.
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Weakfish in New York

Spot profile

Old Orchard Shoal

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Shoal · Inner · Semi-exposedShoal · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonWeakfish

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Old Orchard Shoal

Old Orchard Shoal is a bar in New York Harbor. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads shoal, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are scup, spot and little tunny. It is peak season now for scup, spot, little tunny and Spanish mackerel, and shoulder season for Atlantic croaker, bluefish, black sea bass and weakfish. Scup peak from June through October. Spot peak from August through October. Little tunny peak from September through October.

Tackle & technique

Weakfish
Weakfish hold along channel edges, grass beds, oyster bars and bridge shadows in bays and sounds, usually in 5 to 40 feet of water, and feed hardest at dawn, dusk and after dark. Swim soft plastics or bucktails slowly near the bottom, or drift peeler crab and bloodworms. They have soft mouths, so keep the drag light and the pressure steady.
Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Spot
Spot school over mud and sand in bays, tidal creeks and channels and around piers and bridges, generally in less than 25 feet of water. Fish a two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and bits of bloodworm or shrimp, and move until you find a school. In fall the biggest fish run out of the sounds past piers and inlets, and the bite can go all day.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Great Kills Harbor

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    80
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 80
    • Spot 80
    • Atlantic croaker 67

    6 kt ENEL 11:16 PM · 1.0 ftH 5:11 AM · 4.3 ft

  • Raritan Bay

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    76
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 76
    • Spot 75
    • Atlantic croaker 64

    7 kt ENEL 11:16 PM · 1.0 ftH 5:11 AM · 4.3 ft

  • Crookes Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    73
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 73
    • Spot 72
    • Little tunny 67

    6 kt ENEL 11:16 PM · 1.0 ftH 5:11 AM · 4.3 ft

  • Craven Shoal

    Bar · 2.0 mi

    73
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 73
    • Spot 72
    • Little tunny 64

    7 kt ENEL 11:16 PM · 1.0 ftH 5:11 AM · 4.3 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.