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Atlantic croakerShoulder season

Bar · New York

Old Orchard Shoal

40.52°N · 74.12°W · Bar · New York Harbor

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Best score today · 8 AM · Atlantic croaker

63/100Good
Now
307 AM EDT
Best window
7-11 AMEbb tide
Tide now
Ebbing4.4 ft ▼

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 7 AM · now

Time7ANOW
Score30Fair
Tide4.4 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.5 kn · toward NNE
Wind11 kn NEgusts 22 · steady
Sea stateRough4.5 ft · 7 s
Air temp56°Mild
WeatherOvercast100% cloud
Water69°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Atlantic croaker is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Source: NYSDEC · synced yesterday

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Atlantic croaker is best here

Shoulder season for Atlantic croaker · 1 more week at shoulder

Atlantic croaker season by week of the year. Shoulder season for Atlantic croaker · 1 more week at shoulder.
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Atlantic croaker in New York

Spot profile

Old Orchard Shoal

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Shoal · Inner · Semi-exposedShoal · flat bottom
Season
Shoulder seasonAtlantic croaker

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Old Orchard Shoal

Old Orchard Shoal is a bar in New York Harbor. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads shoal, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are scup, little tunny and bluefish. It is peak season now for scup, little tunny, summer flounder and Spanish mackerel, and shoulder season for bluefish, black sea bass, striped bass and king mackerel. Scup peak from June through October. Little tunny peak from September through October. Bluefish peak in May and from October through November.

Tackle & technique

Atlantic croaker
Croaker feed on mud and sand bottom along channel edges, oyster bars, piers and deeper holes in bays and sounds, mostly in 5 to 30 feet of water. A two-hook bottom rig with small hooks and shrimp, bloodworm or squid catches them from piers, the surf and small boats. Fish the hours around high tide and into the evening.
Scup
Scup school over hard and mixed bottom, rock piles, mussel beds, piers and jetties, usually in 10 to 60 feet of water. Fish a high-low rig with small hooks and squid or clam strips on the bottom, and chum with clam to hold a school under the boat. If nothing bites within 15 minutes, move to the next piece of structure.
Little tunny
Little tunny travel fast in schools that pin bait against inlets, points, jetties and tide rips, usually within a few miles of shore and often in less than 60 feet. Stay off the school's path, wait for it to surface within range, and cast small metal or epoxy jigs with a fast retrieve. When fish stay down, troll small feathers along bait edges and color changes to find them.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Great Kills Harbor

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    68
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 68
    • Little tunny 61
    • Sheepshead 59

    11 kt NEL 12:16 PM · 0.9 ftH 6:14 PM · 5.2 ft

  • Crookes Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    63
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 63
    • Scup 61
    • Striped bass 57

    11 kt NEL 12:16 PM · 0.9 ftH 6:14 PM · 5.2 ft

  • Raritan Bay

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    63
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 63
    • Little tunny 55
    • Bluefish 53

    11 kt NEL 12:16 PM · 0.9 ftH 6:14 PM · 5.2 ft

  • Craven Shoal

    Bar · 2.0 mi

    61
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 61
    • Little tunny 60
    • Bluefish 57

    11 kt NEL 12:16 PM · 0.9 ftH 6:14 PM · 5.2 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.