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Summer flounderPeak season

Bar · New York

Old Orchard Shoal

40.52°N · 74.12°W · Bar · New York Harbor

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Best score today · 8 AM · Summer flounder

71/100Great
Now
617 PM EDT
Best window
7-11 PMEbb tide
Tide now
Ebbing4.4 ft ▼

Data from: NOAA CO-OPS + NDBC + ECMWF + Open-Meteo Marine · Waterlands engine

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24-hour conditions · rolling from now

Conditions · 7 PM · now

Time7PNOW
Score61Good
Tide4.4 ft ▼Ebbing
CurrentEbb0.6 kn · toward NNE
Wind10 kn NEgusts 21 · steady
Sea stateRough4.1 ft · 6 s
Air temp64°Mild
WeatherOvercast99% cloud
Water70°FObserved

Current regulations

What you can keep here today

IN EFFECT NOW

No rule for Summer flounder is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.

Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed

When Summer flounder is best here

Peak season for Summer flounder · 1 more week at peak

Summer flounder season by week of the year. Peak season for Summer flounder · 1 more week at peak.
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Summer flounder in New York

Spot profile

Old Orchard Shoal

Depth
15-20 ftFlat bottom
Structure
Shoal · Inner · Semi-exposedShoal · flat bottom
Season
Peak seasonSummer flounder

NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.

About this spot

Fishing Old Orchard Shoal

Old Orchard Shoal is a bar in New York Harbor. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads shoal, inner water and semi-exposed.

Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are little tunny, bluefish and scup. It is peak season now for little tunny, scup, Spanish mackerel and summer flounder, and shoulder season for bluefish, black sea bass, striped bass and king mackerel. Little tunny peak from September through October. Bluefish peak in May and from October through November. Scup peak from June through October.

Tackle & technique

Summer flounder
Summer flounder lie half-buried on sand and shell bottom and ambush bait along channel edges, inlet bars and ocean reefs, from a few feet deep in back bays to about 100 feet offshore. Drift with the tide and bounce a bucktail tipped with a squid or fish strip along the bottom. The bigger fish move to ocean reefs and wrecks in late summer, so follow them out.
Little tunny
Little tunny travel fast in schools that pin bait against inlets, points, jetties and tide rips, usually within a few miles of shore and often in less than 60 feet. Stay off the school's path, wait for it to surface within range, and cast small metal or epoxy jigs with a fast retrieve. When fish stay down, troll small feathers along bait edges and color changes to find them.
Bluefish
Bluefish travel in size-sorted schools and feed where tide pushes bait past structure: inlet mouths, rips, shoal edges and the surf line, mostly in water shallower than 60 feet. Look for birds and breaking bait and cast metal or poppers into it, or soak cut bunker or mullet on the bottom from the beach. Use a short wire or heavy leader because their teeth cut light line.

Nearby spots

Other spots within an easy run

  • Crookes Point

    Cape · 1.6 mi

    69
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 69
    • Scup 62
    • Striped bass 61

    10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft

  • Great Kills Harbor

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    69
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 69
    • Little tunny 67
    • Sheepshead 66

    10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft

  • Craven Shoal

    Bar · 2.0 mi

    66
    Top: Little tunnyPeak season
    • Little tunny 66
    • Bluefish 62
    • Scup 62

    10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft

  • Raritan Bay

    Bay · 1.7 mi

    64
    Top: ScupPeak season
    • Scup 64
    • Little tunny 61
    • Sheepshead 59

    10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft

Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.