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Best score today · 8 AM · Red drum
- Now
- 3010 PM EDT
- Best window
- 10-11 PMEbb tide
- Tide now
- Ebbing1.6 ft ▼
Data from: NOAA CO-OPS + NDBC + ECMWF + Open-Meteo Marine · Waterlands engine
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14-day forecast
Best days to fish
24-hour conditions · rolling from now
Conditions · 10 PM · now
Tide & current
NOAA CO-OPS
73Tide: EbbingCurrent: SlackWind & pressure
ECMWF
52Wind: 10 kt NEPressure: RisingWater temp & sky
NDBC + Open-Meteo Marine
61Seas over the limit · capped at 30Water temp: 70°F, primeLight: NightSolunar: Major periodSeas: 4.2 ftSeason & habitat · Red drum
Species seasonality
75Season: PeakHabitat: Poor fitDepth: In rangeRegulations: no rule on file
Current regulations
What you can keep here today
No rule for Red drum is on file here yet, so its status is unknown, not closed. Confirm limits with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.
Source: NYSDEC · synced today
Seasonality · 52-week view · this week ringed
When Red drum is best here
Peak season for Red drum · 4 more weeks at peak
- Peak
- Shoulder
- Off
- Not here
- This week
Spot profile
Old Orchard Shoal
- Depth
- 15-20 ftFlat bottom
- Structure
- Shoal · Inner · Semi-exposedShoal · flat bottom
- Season
- Peak seasonRed drum
NOAA NCEI DEM, sampled Sep 13 on a 3.4 m grid. Depths are feet below NAVD 88, not chart datum (MLLW), so they can differ from a chart by a few feet. Not for navigation.
About this spot
Fishing Old Orchard Shoal
Old Orchard Shoal is a bar in New York Harbor. Depth is 15-20 ft, with a flat bottom. Its profile reads shoal, inner water and semi-exposed.
Waterlands scores 17 species here; the best right now are bluefish, little tunny and sheepshead. It is peak season now for little tunny, sheepshead, summer flounder and Spanish mackerel, and shoulder season for bluefish, black sea bass, striped bass and king mackerel. Bluefish peak in May and from October through November. Little tunny peak from September through October. Sheepshead peak from July through September.
Tackle & technique
- Red drum
- Redfish feed on shallow grass flats, oyster bars and marsh edges, often in 1 to 4 feet of water, and drop into channels, deep holes and tidal creeks when the water turns very hot or cold. Work a live shrimp under a popping cork or a soft plastic along the grass line on a rising tide, then fish creek mouths and drains as the tide falls. Bull reds over 30 inches school in the surf, passes and jetties in late summer and fall, where cut mullet or a live crab on the bottom is the standard approach.
- Bluefish
- Bluefish travel in size-sorted schools and feed where tide pushes bait past structure: inlet mouths, rips, shoal edges and the surf line, mostly in water shallower than 60 feet. Look for birds and breaking bait and cast metal or poppers into it, or soak cut bunker or mullet on the bottom from the beach. Use a short wire or heavy leader because their teeth cut light line.
- Little tunny
- Little tunny travel fast in schools that pin bait against inlets, points, jetties and tide rips, usually within a few miles of shore and often in less than 60 feet. Stay off the school's path, wait for it to surface within range, and cast small metal or epoxy jigs with a fast retrieve. When fish stay down, troll small feathers along bait edges and color changes to find them.
Nearby spots
Other spots within an easy run
- Great Kills Harbor64
Bay · 1.7 mi
Top: SheepsheadPeak season- Sheepshead 64
- Black sea bass 60
- Bluefish 59
10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft
- Raritan Bay63
Bay · 1.7 mi
Top: SheepsheadPeak season- Sheepshead 63
- Bluefish 62
- Little tunny 61
10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft
- Craven Shoal62
Bar · 2.0 mi
Top: BluefishShoulder season- Bluefish 62
- Little tunny 60
- Sheepshead 57
10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft
- Crookes Point61
Cape · 1.6 mi
Top: Little tunnyPeak season- Little tunny 61
- Bluefish 59
- Striped bass 59
10 kt NEL 12:01 AM · 0.7 ftH 5:59 AM · 4.7 ft
Scores and forecasts are for planning only and can be wrong. Conditions on the water change fast; check the marine forecast before you go. Regulations change during the season, so confirm limits and closures with NYSDEC before you keep a fish.
